Interview Jenner: New Horizons
With their powerful combination of thrash metal riffs and classic heavy metal melodies, Jenner has quickly become one of the most interesting bands to come out of the European heavy metal scene in the last couple of years. But even though ‘Prove Them Wrong‘ is only Jenner’s second album, the band’s history has been quite eventful. Singer and guitarist Aleksandra Stamenković, also known as Alexandra Lioness, updates us about the last couple of years.
Out of the line-up on Jenner’s debut album ‘To Live is to Suffer‘, only Stamenković can be heard on ‘Prove Them Wrong’. The 2020 EP ‘The Test of Time’ can be seen as a solo venture in anything but name, but ‘Prove Them Wrong’ features a full trio line-up. When asked if she ever feared Jenner was over, Stamenković is candid: “I would be lying if I said otherwise. In fact, for a long time, I wasn’t even sure whether releasing that EP as a band was worth it, or if I should simply start a solo career. In the end, with the support of family and friends, I decided to go ahead with the band release.
However, just as it was being released, the Covid-19 pandemic hit, pushing music into the background and leading to the departure of the band’s members at the time. The bright side of it was that this situation gave me space and time to think about the future, and to develop as an artist and a musician. At that moment, I began to build my social networks and expand my fanbase, and I believe that the new album was largely embraced because of it.“
Bigger Challenge
Possibly the most notable change between ‘To Live is to Suffer‘ and ‘Prove Them Wrong‘ is that aside from playing guitars, Stamenković is Jenner’s lead singer these days. “I’m not a singer, I’m a guitarist who sings“, she freely admits. “Besides that, another role has been imposed on me, and that is to be the frontman and entertainer for the audience. As someone who is naturally quiet, introverted, and shy, this may have even been a bigger challenge for me than singing. But with time, even that can be learned. It’s simply the nature of this job.
Throughout my childhood, I struggled with breathing issues and a stuffy nose due to various allergies, lung inflammations, et cetera. When I started pursuing music, I was aware of my sense of pitch and singing ability, but I simply lacked technique. In 2016, I underwent nose surgery and finally experienced clear breathing, which opened up new horizons for me. Previously, I sang backing vocals, but mostly in falsetto, rarely letting my voice fully project. During a period when our former vocalist was absent from band rehearsals, I stepped in on lead vocals, so the rest of the band could practice, and I realized I could handle it.
Later, I began recording vocals for new demos I was creating. When the vocalist decided to leave the band, I understood it was better for me to take on her role to reduce the number of band members for logistical reasons. I practiced on my own, recorded an EP, and now a new album. However, in the end, I decided to seek professional help. Although I have only had a few lessons so far, I have felt tremendous progress in a short time, and I hope it will only improve over time.“
Evident Progress
With seven years between Jenner’s two albums, the material on ‘Prove Them Wrong’ could potentially have been written over a long period of time. “Only ‘Never Say Die’ and ‘Born for Something More’ have been composed since Anja (Mirković, bassist) and Selena (Simić, drummer) joined the band“, Stamenković confirms. “The remaining songs have roots dating back to the time of composing for the first album. They mostly consisted of riffs and ideas that I couldn’t elaborate on at the time. So they remained dormant, waiting for the right moment to shine. ‘No Time for Prayer’, ‘Prove Them Wrong’ and ‘Eye for an Eye’ have been completed for quite some time, but we only recently added lyrics and solos.
I think the biggest difference lies in the structure of the songs and the arrangements. Although some of the songs on the new album may seem simpler than those on the first album, they are actually done more thoughtfully, now that I have a better grasp of what I’m doing. Everything has been executed at a higher level. Especially the guitar solos are more meaningful and played better. I’d also say that mixing and mastering has been done more professionally. I can compare, because the same person worked on all Jenner releases, haha! Overall, there is evident progress in every aspect, and I’m really pleased about that.
At some point, I started seriously practicing the guitar and studying music and guitar theory. I think that influenced me the most. I never had much time for it, because of obligations and studying, but in the meantime, I graduated from the Faculty of Medicine and realized that I still wanted to dedicate myself to the guitar and try and make some kind of career as a musician. So, I started learning and experimenting a lot, which opened up new perspectives in composition for me, and I believe that it’s one of the best things I have done for myself in the past few years.“
Period of Transition
“Usually, I create the entire instrumental part of the songs, including programmed drums and vocal lines, based on intuition. Then, we adjust the drums together, because I usually write something that can’t be played, haha! We change things where necessary, add or remove elements, shape the songs, add lyrics, solos backing vocals and package it into a song. My weakest point is lyrics; sometimes I have a good idea, but I struggle to put it into words. And that’s where the others step in.
The primary lyricist on the new album is my boyfriend, Emil Ivošević. Anja and I wrote the lyrics to two songs together, and the rest were all written by him. This album is largely based on my personal life during a period of transition. Throughout my entire life, but especially in the last few years, I have been in situations where a lot is expected of me, and instead of listening to my heart, I blindly fulfilled the wishes and expectations of others, falling into a vicious cycle where I’m extremely unhappy.
At one point, I woke up and told myself that enough was enough. Life passes by quickly, and I don’t want to regret missed opportunities tomorrow because I didn’t have the courage to stand up to people and live my life the way I want. Emil followed all of this and based on that, he wrote many lyrics that described the feelings and thoughts in my head. I also hope that people who are in similar situations will find the strength and motivation to fight for themselves in these songs.“
Refreshed
Jenner being a three-piece band, but having fairly elaborate guitar arrangements on their recordings presents an interesting challenge in the live environment. “What’s most important to me is that the song sounds good on the studio recording, since it will remain eternal“, Stamenković explains. “While live performances can be changed and modified as needed. I try not to let the lack of other guitarists in the band limit me when writing songs, haha!
I write everything based on feeling, including guitar solos. Again, returning to the same theme, since I started practicing more seriously and learning music theory, new horizons have opened up for me. I have learned new techniques and scales that I have started incorporating into solos, which has really refreshed Jenner’s new sound.
I can’t say that my taste in instruments and equipment has changed, as I haven’t had many opportunities to switch gear. Currently, I have a Charvel bass from 1989, and for guitars, I use two Jacksons and two Harley Bentons. I mostly play the Harley Benton Fusion III with Blackfire Pickups and Ernie Ball strings, gauge 9-42. At home, I use Neural DSP VST’s and Bugera 333 amlifiers. For concerts, it depends on what is available, but I am a big fan of Peavey.“
Accepted
Another challenge for Jenner is that being from Serbia, they are part of a relatively small scene. “In Serbia, metal has remained underground music for decades“, Stamenković nods. “While Belgrade has always been the heart of our underground metal community, it is essential to acknowledge the significant contributions of bands from other major cities, like Novi Sad, Kragujevac, and Niš. The most enthusiastic audience is definitely in Kragujevac, haha!
I found myself immersed in this scene around 2011, a time when some argue that metal in Serbia began to face challenges. However, I couldn’t really tell because, well… I didn’t know any different, haha! Despite the presence of larger festivals, many of which aren’t predominantly metal-focused, my most memorable experiences were at small festivals and concerts organized by the bands themselves, often my friends.
It seems to me that from the beginning, Jenner has been more accepted in the rest of Europe and America than in Serbia. Starting from the fact that our first album was released by a French record label and our second album by a Spanish label. I have noticed we sell a lot more T-shirts and CD’s in Europe than at home. I assume that a big influence is the fact that most of my followers on social media are from North and South America, and Europe.“
Evolution
Changes seem to follow Jenner everywhere they go. Less than a week before the publication of this interview, the band announced that drummer Selena Simić had left the band. She has been replaced by Stamenković’s sister Marija Dragićević, who was already part of the band between 2013 and 2021, but departed essentially to take maternity leave.
“I didn’t know if Marija even would be able to play“, Stamenković admits. “She had not played for years. But when I asked if she was interested in rejoining the band, she was so happy that she even bought her first drum kit and started practicing immediately. She was a huge fan of my songs even when she wasn’t in the band, so she followed the evolution of these songs from the early demos to their final stages.“
Bassist Anja Mirković joined the band after Marija left, but that is no reason to worry, Stamenković asserts. “Marija and Anja clicked right away“, she says. “The atmosphere in the band is cool, so I hope everything will work out for us. We can’t wait to play live on stage!“